I always bear in mind that Lysenko was right. The west "discovered" epigenes 50 years later because we required ourselves to hate and discount EVERYTHING Russian. Lysenko was Russian, therefore he was wrong, no matter what nature said. We insisted that genes were invariant, and at the same time we insisted that genes don't exist. Russian scientists were more realistic and open to observing nature.
Interesting. Do Russian scientists feel inferior to their western counterparts? They shouldn't. Russians were right about MANY things. They should be proud.
Oh Polistra, you're opening one hell of a can of worms. The whole known history of Russia is poisoned with 'how to be like the west' and the occasional flash of brilliance that screams 'stop trying to emulate the west' - in particular the soviet period. Nowadays Russky scientists have come a long enough way not to have that inferiority complex but there's a big fat trace that lurks subconsciously. At the political level, there's a confusing mix of 'we are the best' and 'we still need to be friends with the west', and 'we must not reclaim the good stuff of the soviet era'. It keeps Russians very confused. Sigh.
I was just thinking yesterday that I had not seen a post by Enna in a while and presto! Here is another delightful post. As you know Enna, I love cats, so I appreciate this post. But I have noticed that cats also purr when nursing and when they are trying to calm themselves. I had read somewhere some time ago that when a cat sits on a person's chest or gut and purrs, the vibration does bring healing to the human. Of course, it also brings comfort and joy to hear and feel a cat purring.
And then there are the Egyptians who revered cats as Gods/Goddesses.
Thanks for adding those points Jeanice. I haven't seen mine purr to calm themselves, perhaps that's an American cat specialty. As for purring during nursing, if we believe the Russian scientists that is only because they learnt to purr for humans first. Chuckle.
Upon looking into the eyes of 'wild big cats' vs. the eyes of our 'house cats', the big cats have round pupils, and our house kitty's have slits like a dragon has ... so, I've renamed house cats into 'fur dragons' !!!! They replaced their 'fire' with a purr, and 'scales' with fur .... purring furry dragons, perhaps! My silly theory!
Brilliant comment, thank you! Theory not at all silly!
Fur dragons indeed, I'm right with you on that. I have my own high-woo idea about the house cat's pupils, perhaps I'll feel brave enough to substack it.
Lovely, but some cat species purr to each other, too. So purring would seem to m to be a social construct for forming bonds with other cats applied to an unrelated species in order to obtain mice, birds, and shelter with minimal effort. Smart.
I bow to your wisdom - my feline training out here in Thailand is limited to the vast abundance of cats I've 'had' (been had by) over the years. No idea about their species.
But beyond the specific empirical data, I find it more significant at least for my non-rational self to perceive underlying subtle patterns from which we have so much more to learn and emulate...
I remember reading somewhere that cats measure specifically around 500 (love) on the Hawkins scale - more than twice the average human! So there's one way of objectively evaluating them then, at any rate.
Smile. The most 'objective' way methinks, is the objectivity of the curling up in one's lap and the purring and the therapeutic effect of a cat lying on a pain point. The beauty of 'objectivity' that isn't measurable...
How timely a subject upon cats enna - I have just returned from Mexico carrying a Jaguar face molded with fangs and hair (pig hair) to boot, that was hand painted with real pigment (not acrylic paint) along with the instruction from the old man artist never to get it wet. And I used to work with Jaguar aircraft so as I look up I’ll be listening for a purr from my porch protector. I have a dog who adores all cats so perhaps I’ll couple her with a four legged version. The Russian research upon cat purring is a needed exposition in these days of humungous transition. Thank you for that.
I arrived home today after spending a few days away. On sitting on my bed and simply contemplating 'why' I was greeted by Nelly our tabby. She nestled up to me an insisted on a gentle pet 'purr was her response to my question. Thank you enna I greatly appreciate your insight and perfect synchronity in timing of the subtle that is so wonderfully complete.
We had a friend, when we had just moved into this house in 2011, who was in a classy used bookstore, which went up several floors. She bought a coffee with a friend, sat on a sofa, and three large art books (one of them was Goya) were somehow knocked off the top of a shelf and dropped a good 20 feet upon her head. She thought she might be alright, and her friend followed her home. She lives way out in the country. Turns out she was not ok, and we took her in for four months, as we have a quiet finished basement with a canopy bed. She needed a lot of stillness.
Our feline Genghiz Khat, who showed up out of nowhere on our farm as a feral kitten a year before, would jump into bed and gently lay his paw on her forehead and sit there purring on and off. Magical creatures. Our friend took ten years to get her mojo back.
Cooperation, not competition. Remember "Darwin's bulldog" the grandfather of Aldous and Julian Huxley, Thomas, was MI6 and a big time eugenicist. Darwin, was an op, like the idea of progress he is based upon. Now, even consciousness evolves . . .
One can only sigh at the long and circuitous journey of cats doing their feline best to reverse darwinian programming in humans' cognition. At least it has worked in some of us... and surely they know it when their human wards show signs of de-darwinization, manifested in intensified mutual purring.
It sounds as though Genghiz is no longer there, or is he? And if not, does he have a successor?
And I hope the returned mojo came with an extra dose of wisdom?
Genghiz, after telepathically informing us months before, left us two Christmases ago, age thirteen. He was more or less my familiar, and loved people. If we had guests, he would find the geometric mean between everyone and sit there. And a great mouser. We picked up Kedi Efendi this year February (Turkish for ‘Cat Friend’) from a local farm animal rescue haven. She is maybe 3 or 4 and over the months has become a sweet friend. While Genghiz was an old wise man, she is Lightning and loves to play. We are blessed.
Have you read into the toxoplasmosis side regarding our feline companions as well? It's posited they have this brain(?) parasite which transfers to us, and via this we are attached to the cats 🐈. And it would explain some excessive cuddling towards them , but that seems interesting and odd hehe. 🤔 Some sort of a positive feedback loop...
Jakob, I haven't a clue about the toxoplasmosis connection - it seems to be a real thing in the affluent west, but we peasants in the third world know nothing about it. I've had about 50 cats here so far, and none of that stuff.
Anyway, why look for a parasite to explain something that might be much more mysterious, beautiful, and ultimately real???
That seems like the perspective needed in this matter. Thought about this I have not, thank you !
Speaking of mysteriousness, I'm curious when ye say mysterious, but in thine book you are highlighting christendom a bit for its alluring nonuseful mysteriousness regarding their god and father and whatnot(?)?
It seems to depend where the mysterious is, perhaps. Just curious as to how you differentiate, don't want to point out any 'contradiction' at all ;)
SALUTATIONS . I just watched your chat with Judith and loved it . Would you at all be interested in having a convo with my self? I have just recently opened a YouTube channel for the purpose of waking up my fellow man to many truths from tartaria to our “alien” friends and foes to health and healing which cats I think play a major role. I would greatly love a convo with you .
I always bear in mind that Lysenko was right. The west "discovered" epigenes 50 years later because we required ourselves to hate and discount EVERYTHING Russian. Lysenko was Russian, therefore he was wrong, no matter what nature said. We insisted that genes were invariant, and at the same time we insisted that genes don't exist. Russian scientists were more realistic and open to observing nature.
That's a brave position to uphold! But yes, he was right. His 'rehabilitation' is still very tentative in Russia.
Interesting. Do Russian scientists feel inferior to their western counterparts? They shouldn't. Russians were right about MANY things. They should be proud.
Oh Polistra, you're opening one hell of a can of worms. The whole known history of Russia is poisoned with 'how to be like the west' and the occasional flash of brilliance that screams 'stop trying to emulate the west' - in particular the soviet period. Nowadays Russky scientists have come a long enough way not to have that inferiority complex but there's a big fat trace that lurks subconsciously. At the political level, there's a confusing mix of 'we are the best' and 'we still need to be friends with the west', and 'we must not reclaim the good stuff of the soviet era'. It keeps Russians very confused. Sigh.
I was just thinking yesterday that I had not seen a post by Enna in a while and presto! Here is another delightful post. As you know Enna, I love cats, so I appreciate this post. But I have noticed that cats also purr when nursing and when they are trying to calm themselves. I had read somewhere some time ago that when a cat sits on a person's chest or gut and purrs, the vibration does bring healing to the human. Of course, it also brings comfort and joy to hear and feel a cat purring.
And then there are the Egyptians who revered cats as Gods/Goddesses.
Special creatures they are!
Thanks for adding those points Jeanice. I haven't seen mine purr to calm themselves, perhaps that's an American cat specialty. As for purring during nursing, if we believe the Russian scientists that is only because they learnt to purr for humans first. Chuckle.
Ziontists do tend to see things only from a material perspective, completely separate from the energy of love.
Yay for cats!
Coleman Barks wrote a delightful poem called Purring:
https://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php%3Fdate=2008%252F09%252F29.html
Upon looking into the eyes of 'wild big cats' vs. the eyes of our 'house cats', the big cats have round pupils, and our house kitty's have slits like a dragon has ... so, I've renamed house cats into 'fur dragons' !!!! They replaced their 'fire' with a purr, and 'scales' with fur .... purring furry dragons, perhaps! My silly theory!
Brilliant comment, thank you! Theory not at all silly!
Fur dragons indeed, I'm right with you on that. I have my own high-woo idea about the house cat's pupils, perhaps I'll feel brave enough to substack it.
Looking forward to reading your idea!
Lovely, but some cat species purr to each other, too. So purring would seem to m to be a social construct for forming bonds with other cats applied to an unrelated species in order to obtain mice, birds, and shelter with minimal effort. Smart.
I bow to your wisdom - my feline training out here in Thailand is limited to the vast abundance of cats I've 'had' (been had by) over the years. No idea about their species.
But beyond the specific empirical data, I find it more significant at least for my non-rational self to perceive underlying subtle patterns from which we have so much more to learn and emulate...
I remember reading somewhere that cats measure specifically around 500 (love) on the Hawkins scale - more than twice the average human! So there's one way of objectively evaluating them then, at any rate.
Smile. The most 'objective' way methinks, is the objectivity of the curling up in one's lap and the purring and the therapeutic effect of a cat lying on a pain point. The beauty of 'objectivity' that isn't measurable...
How timely a subject upon cats enna - I have just returned from Mexico carrying a Jaguar face molded with fangs and hair (pig hair) to boot, that was hand painted with real pigment (not acrylic paint) along with the instruction from the old man artist never to get it wet. And I used to work with Jaguar aircraft so as I look up I’ll be listening for a purr from my porch protector. I have a dog who adores all cats so perhaps I’ll couple her with a four legged version. The Russian research upon cat purring is a needed exposition in these days of humungous transition. Thank you for that.
Thank you for that last sentence Stillwater.
How delightful, Enna! I will share with my cat-lover friend.
I arrived home today after spending a few days away. On sitting on my bed and simply contemplating 'why' I was greeted by Nelly our tabby. She nestled up to me an insisted on a gentle pet 'purr was her response to my question. Thank you enna I greatly appreciate your insight and perfect synchronity in timing of the subtle that is so wonderfully complete.
We had a friend, when we had just moved into this house in 2011, who was in a classy used bookstore, which went up several floors. She bought a coffee with a friend, sat on a sofa, and three large art books (one of them was Goya) were somehow knocked off the top of a shelf and dropped a good 20 feet upon her head. She thought she might be alright, and her friend followed her home. She lives way out in the country. Turns out she was not ok, and we took her in for four months, as we have a quiet finished basement with a canopy bed. She needed a lot of stillness.
Our feline Genghiz Khat, who showed up out of nowhere on our farm as a feral kitten a year before, would jump into bed and gently lay his paw on her forehead and sit there purring on and off. Magical creatures. Our friend took ten years to get her mojo back.
Cooperation, not competition. Remember "Darwin's bulldog" the grandfather of Aldous and Julian Huxley, Thomas, was MI6 and a big time eugenicist. Darwin, was an op, like the idea of progress he is based upon. Now, even consciousness evolves . . .
One can only sigh at the long and circuitous journey of cats doing their feline best to reverse darwinian programming in humans' cognition. At least it has worked in some of us... and surely they know it when their human wards show signs of de-darwinization, manifested in intensified mutual purring.
It sounds as though Genghiz is no longer there, or is he? And if not, does he have a successor?
And I hope the returned mojo came with an extra dose of wisdom?
Genghiz, after telepathically informing us months before, left us two Christmases ago, age thirteen. He was more or less my familiar, and loved people. If we had guests, he would find the geometric mean between everyone and sit there. And a great mouser. We picked up Kedi Efendi this year February (Turkish for ‘Cat Friend’) from a local farm animal rescue haven. She is maybe 3 or 4 and over the months has become a sweet friend. While Genghiz was an old wise man, she is Lightning and loves to play. We are blessed.
Have you read into the toxoplasmosis side regarding our feline companions as well? It's posited they have this brain(?) parasite which transfers to us, and via this we are attached to the cats 🐈. And it would explain some excessive cuddling towards them , but that seems interesting and odd hehe. 🤔 Some sort of a positive feedback loop...
Jakob, I haven't a clue about the toxoplasmosis connection - it seems to be a real thing in the affluent west, but we peasants in the third world know nothing about it. I've had about 50 cats here so far, and none of that stuff.
Anyway, why look for a parasite to explain something that might be much more mysterious, beautiful, and ultimately real???
That seems like the perspective needed in this matter. Thought about this I have not, thank you !
Speaking of mysteriousness, I'm curious when ye say mysterious, but in thine book you are highlighting christendom a bit for its alluring nonuseful mysteriousness regarding their god and father and whatnot(?)?
It seems to depend where the mysterious is, perhaps. Just curious as to how you differentiate, don't want to point out any 'contradiction' at all ;)
Like most other useful words, 'mystery' has gotten itself into nasty distortions verging on contradiction.
There is the mystery/mysteriousness of the invisible but very real Reality. The stuff pursued by mystics.
And there is the mystery of mystification = the fabrication of mystery. The stuff of narrative makers
Makes sense yeah thank u good ma'am
And then there's Rossini's Duetto para dos Gatos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHNeMcSdBCM&list=PLmUca2SakfBakqp_lMIm1Z0KTO5yAB1E2&index=20
SALUTATIONS . I just watched your chat with Judith and loved it . Would you at all be interested in having a convo with my self? I have just recently opened a YouTube channel for the purpose of waking up my fellow man to many truths from tartaria to our “alien” friends and foes to health and healing which cats I think play a major role. I would greatly love a convo with you .
Thank you