after reading Sally comment yesterday my heart stayed with her....i live a similar situation with a medical procedure done to my mother that was not really her choice. she has departed also. thank you Enna! be strong Sally!
Thank you for adding your voice and sad story to Sally's, Simona.
I hope both of you will apply the process I have outlined. This is not taught to the public, but in our present situation we need to recover the self-confidence to act for healing in the esoteric soul-realm - it is actually a natural thing in humans, and in doing this kind of process we can recover what we have been made to forget.
Please check my response to Kylie - it clarifies details I hadn't included in my response to you. And you too, if you feel like sharing your experience (only if you feel like it), it will be most welcome - here or privately, of course.
It has taken a year to fight for his records which I’m still pushing for physical written records. I prefer to have and handle the grief of the details before I am able to do this process. Some parts are brutal to read, so I need to digest this first. Sadly there are groups with hundreds of thousands of the same exact details almost word for word. There’s a purpose in this for me to serve somewhere, somehow, I’m just not there yet. But I found you and your article as a crucial stepping stone on this healing journey heading there ...
I understand your position. And, yes, this has happened/is happening to so, so many. And it is not only for you to shoulder this, although you have a primary involvement with your departed one. I see it as our collective responsibility to at least hold all those victims in our hearts, so that they don't remain with the victimhood imprint at soul level.
I would still suggest that you 'do this work' without delaying much - even just a first step at your present level of knowing what happened. This is therapeutic for you too. On that basis you would be able to better take the further brutality (to use your very apt term), the 'grief of the details', in one or more further 'sessions'.
It's a matter of operating from your greater self sooner rather than later in the grieving process - from the place where you are never the victim (considering that you too are victimized by what was done).
Your sense of 'to serve a purpose somewhere, somehow' is also, I feel, very correct. Those of us who, from the greater soul, process trauma initially for our loved ones and thus for ourselves can eventually do it for those others than you refer to - this 'work' is also applicable on an anonymous and collective basis. In this case very clearly so, because as you say, the details are 'the exact same'. We're dealing with a collective wounding and killing.
I would definitely love to try this for my recently departed mother in law.
Not extremely traumatic circumstances (comparative to Sally’s story) but none the less I’d love to help heal some trauma for her if I can. As she was in a lot of pain in the lead up and sadly had 4 c v d vx’s which was what sent her health spiralling out of control.
My questions are.. can you go over the scenario a few times? I thought you eluded to this in Sally’s case toward the end.
Secondly, can you use this practice for other traumatic events yourself or others have been through?
Thanks for your comment and question. I am so glad you posted them, really.
There undoubtedly was trauma for your mother-in-law since there was a lot of pain.
Several 'sessions' are not necessary unless they are. What I mean is, you do one, with all your presence - after which you may feel elated-energized or on the contrary tired. You need to let some 'time' (our sense of time) elapse because you've done a very big job. You will feel, after a day or more, whether the pain trauma was cleared sufficiently for that soul - you'll simply know. If you feel there is still something lingering, then you can do another 'session' a few days later.
It is natural for the first or the first couple of 'sessions' to be a bit uncertain since this kind of thing is not familiar practice in our present reality. As long as it is done soul-to-soul in a very spontaneous attentive fashion, with heart-presence, there is no right or wrong. After one or two 'sessions' you get the hang of it, and of course it can be applied in all sorts of other configurations, including animals by the way.
Yes, you can do it for yourself too - from the greater infinite soul of you, to the incarnated part of your soul that bears the imprint of the trauma. It is in fact a potent way of discovering that there really is a greater soul of you that can heal the 'smaller' brave soul-part that experienced the hardship.
Let me know how it goes, only if you wish to share of course - perhaps via a private email if you don't want it in this more public space, although readers of this page would probably find this kind of feedback most interesting or possibly even empowering.
The more of us apply this kind of loving care, the better!
I have shared this 'technique' that is otherwise pretty confidential because I believe the times require it. Especially when we feel that there is so little we can do at the current '3D' level. The subtle realm is actually where we have capacities beyond the physical world.
Hi Enna thanks for another post that makes me happy I'm not the only one who thinks about this kind of thing. I'm so sorry to hear of these troubles people are going through as we write.
I just had some more general thoughts. It’s helped me a lot to make a distinction between soul and spirit. One reason why westerners don't often do this clearly might be to do with the church officially 'abolishing’ the idea of enspirited humans in the first millennium: http://threeman.org/?p=1092.
As a contrast, in the Aboriginal tradition for example the soul is part of the 'vehicle', which is shed at some point after an incarnation, whereas the spirit is eternal. It also seems to be omniscient and omnipotent in a certain way: In Holographic Kinetics (HK), a healing modality that is rooted in the Australian ‘old ways’, the spirit is the means of making changes for the better for a being, if the spirit is accessed and addressed using the HK methods. A spirit can be communicated with, using such a method, even if it’s of the 'deceased', somatically via the body of a living relative for example. Trauma undergone by an ancestor and expressing itself via the body of a descendant can be fixed as well (as can that undergone in a past life of the person).
This would seem to offer some hope for people enduring the current madness. HK sees this all as a kind of ‘game’, where you’re tricked into participating via agreements of entrapment. This would include taking medications.
The other point would be about experiences with ancestral work, where one can connect with ancestors from pre-colonial or otherwise pristine epochs usually first via the maternal lines and basically enlist them in the healing of the present. I can vouch for this as well. The implication is that the dead are more or less well, often die ‘unwell’ and are not immediately able to integrate with their forebears, and that healing is often required (Enna’s process is a lovely example of this). I’ve no idea how it might fit with souls being ‘zapped’ in the afterlife and forced to reincarnate, maybe we exist in different aspects, undergoing wildly different experiences.
Dear deep diver, thank you for this most welcome contribution.
Yes on the spirit/soul confusion. I've always been puzzled at 'spirituality' being the religious business of 'soul' - which should in that logic be 'souluality', don't you think?
But the bigger problem is that both soul and spirit are largely abstract concepts for people nowadays - I do believe that is by deliberate godtrix design, for after all, more 'primitive' people unpolluted by godtrix had/have an exquisite sense of spirit as experiential reality. Yet, how can modern people make sense of it, and of the distinction that you very rightly point out... In any case one has to experience - not conceptualize - these subtle entities to feel that they are indeed not the same thing. I humbly, as a non-expert, hope to contribute to that experiential aspect, specifically regarding 'spirit', through the non-doing non-practices in my new book.
You make an excellent point about communicating, and helping the healing, of someone on 'this' or 'that' side via a living person acting as proxy. I don't know about HK but the approach is familiar to me in past life regression therapy, I can definitely validate what you describe. Likewise, healing through the ancestral line - in some cases all it takes is to heal at one key generational level and it ripples all the way up.
The last point you mention is the most complex since the zap-recycle operation is clearly not part of the natural order. In soul terms (since it's the soul that records trauma) the soul of someone dying a harsh death is, in a way, 'relieved' to leave the body but does carry the imprint of trauma, which will be reactivated in a future life. So the dead are, to use your terms, both more and less well. For the 'less' aspect, some healing/processing/integration of the blocked energy happens 'out there' at some point after death, but some trace will have to express itself in another life, basically a matter of energy balance. The most interesting aspect however is that we come into a life with only a part of our soul - arguably, we wouldn't be able to 'hold the charge' of the whole soul in the constrained dimensions of physicality, although daily care for our 'spiritual' self increases that holding capacity over time.
This means that the zapping and recycling cannot happen to the whole soul - that's nice and reassuring, isn't it... but also means that even on 'the other side' the 'broken off' part of the soul can't reunite with its greater soul-self as long as the rapid zap-recycle system is in place. Freaky... I don't want to go into speculation about this, for at this point I can only speculate.
However, if those of us who can help with healing our ancestral lines do it (big job - we all represent a large number of such lineages), my sense is that the horrid zap-recycle problem can be helped from 'the other side' by ancestors, in reciprocity (the living help the dead, the dead help the living). Ancestors from a whole-soul remote past... Including, potentially, those who have returned into a body at this specific time in history?
Wow - those are some big big things you have brought into the picture! Thanks again.
Yes! the soul/spirit confusion and abstraction paves the way for materialism, which as we know is a cornerstone for 'god-tricks'.
It seems to be the soul aspect that undergoes fragmentation, and the possibility of re-integration (soul retrieval). There are ways of traumatizing the spirit too, i believe, that have been practised deliberately in the past and there are new ones perhaps more recently invented, but in balance I am certain there are also ways to heal this kind of trauma. [Has anyone come across that recent Thomas Mayer book that deals with the current 'medications' and their spiritual aspect?] I personally find the spirit to be easiest to experience day to day. It seems to be associated with the heart and also with that part of the self that observes everything else going on, as well as joy, creative experiences etc. There are people who seem to be able to communicate directly from that place as well when talking. It is perceivable. If it's also accessible, then we can surely heal all this.
I like your positive outlook in these matters of healing, Bushtaxi!
I am much more tentative than you in respect of the spirit and its possible traumatization. And the distinction of soul and spirit is godtrix-mined territory...
What does seem clear is that 'soul' is individual to each one of us, and has everything to do with what Jung called 'individuation', realized little by little, life after life - or faster in some cases. That aspect of individuation connects with its ability to be traumatized.
'Spirit' is not such a differentiated-individuated subtle entity. It does translate as life-force/chi/prana for us individually, and expresses itself in the physicality of breath (re-spir-ation). But its subtle essence is, arguably and/or experientially, continuous with the greater 'spirit of everything' (as told in the 'Broody Blue' book). In this sense it is a great neutral force, unlike the soul that is more closely associated with our psyche, emotions, and bodily trauma. It is the great 'medium' in which we all bathe, so to speak. The ethers, at a subtler non-dimensional level perhaps?
This would make it amenable to meta-physical distortion and perversion of the 'medium' (Joseph Farrell's term) by 'bad actors' out there, black magicians down here - rather than traumatization. One could imagine that distorted 'lumps' of spirit would be the stuff of egregores (??), the 'healing' of which would be a matter of 'spiritual return to neutrality'.
At our individual level, I agree that spirit is easier to experience than 'soul' because its subtle nature is expressed in us physically, in the breath - and to your point about it being associated with the heart, well, the lungs and the heart are indeed anatomically in close proximity and co-functionality, physically and subtly. If one perceives its action from the physical back into the subtle, then it embraces our whole being, and beyond.
The soul is seemingly less easy to perceive - yet it expresses itself in every moment of our embodied life... so it shouldn't be that hard to 'find'.
Wow, you bring in very big considerations! It would take an experiment of several people operating at the subtle level, with no mind intrusion, to begin to perceive a possible consensus.
But I don't want to go any further on this for now - big risk of confusion, and this thread is mainly about helping souls in distress with available tried and tested tools.
after reading Sally comment yesterday my heart stayed with her....i live a similar situation with a medical procedure done to my mother that was not really her choice. she has departed also. thank you Enna! be strong Sally!
Thank you for adding your voice and sad story to Sally's, Simona.
I hope both of you will apply the process I have outlined. This is not taught to the public, but in our present situation we need to recover the self-confidence to act for healing in the esoteric soul-realm - it is actually a natural thing in humans, and in doing this kind of process we can recover what we have been made to forget.
Take care! Of both your mother and yourself...
Wow, thank you so much for your time and explanation. I understand what you are explaining and I will be sitting with and applying this process.
Thank you very much Sally!
It means a lot to me that you will applying this.
Please check my response to Kylie - it clarifies details I hadn't included in my response to you. And you too, if you feel like sharing your experience (only if you feel like it), it will be most welcome - here or privately, of course.
It has taken a year to fight for his records which I’m still pushing for physical written records. I prefer to have and handle the grief of the details before I am able to do this process. Some parts are brutal to read, so I need to digest this first. Sadly there are groups with hundreds of thousands of the same exact details almost word for word. There’s a purpose in this for me to serve somewhere, somehow, I’m just not there yet. But I found you and your article as a crucial stepping stone on this healing journey heading there ...
Dear Sally,
I understand your position. And, yes, this has happened/is happening to so, so many. And it is not only for you to shoulder this, although you have a primary involvement with your departed one. I see it as our collective responsibility to at least hold all those victims in our hearts, so that they don't remain with the victimhood imprint at soul level.
I would still suggest that you 'do this work' without delaying much - even just a first step at your present level of knowing what happened. This is therapeutic for you too. On that basis you would be able to better take the further brutality (to use your very apt term), the 'grief of the details', in one or more further 'sessions'.
It's a matter of operating from your greater self sooner rather than later in the grieving process - from the place where you are never the victim (considering that you too are victimized by what was done).
Your sense of 'to serve a purpose somewhere, somehow' is also, I feel, very correct. Those of us who, from the greater soul, process trauma initially for our loved ones and thus for ourselves can eventually do it for those others than you refer to - this 'work' is also applicable on an anonymous and collective basis. In this case very clearly so, because as you say, the details are 'the exact same'. We're dealing with a collective wounding and killing.
You are a brave and generous one, Sally.
Wow, this is a beautiful thing to do for somone.
I would definitely love to try this for my recently departed mother in law.
Not extremely traumatic circumstances (comparative to Sally’s story) but none the less I’d love to help heal some trauma for her if I can. As she was in a lot of pain in the lead up and sadly had 4 c v d vx’s which was what sent her health spiralling out of control.
My questions are.. can you go over the scenario a few times? I thought you eluded to this in Sally’s case toward the end.
Secondly, can you use this practice for other traumatic events yourself or others have been through?
Thank you so much x
Dear Kylie,
Thanks for your comment and question. I am so glad you posted them, really.
There undoubtedly was trauma for your mother-in-law since there was a lot of pain.
Several 'sessions' are not necessary unless they are. What I mean is, you do one, with all your presence - after which you may feel elated-energized or on the contrary tired. You need to let some 'time' (our sense of time) elapse because you've done a very big job. You will feel, after a day or more, whether the pain trauma was cleared sufficiently for that soul - you'll simply know. If you feel there is still something lingering, then you can do another 'session' a few days later.
It is natural for the first or the first couple of 'sessions' to be a bit uncertain since this kind of thing is not familiar practice in our present reality. As long as it is done soul-to-soul in a very spontaneous attentive fashion, with heart-presence, there is no right or wrong. After one or two 'sessions' you get the hang of it, and of course it can be applied in all sorts of other configurations, including animals by the way.
Yes, you can do it for yourself too - from the greater infinite soul of you, to the incarnated part of your soul that bears the imprint of the trauma. It is in fact a potent way of discovering that there really is a greater soul of you that can heal the 'smaller' brave soul-part that experienced the hardship.
Let me know how it goes, only if you wish to share of course - perhaps via a private email if you don't want it in this more public space, although readers of this page would probably find this kind of feedback most interesting or possibly even empowering.
The more of us apply this kind of loving care, the better!
I have shared this 'technique' that is otherwise pretty confidential because I believe the times require it. Especially when we feel that there is so little we can do at the current '3D' level. The subtle realm is actually where we have capacities beyond the physical world.
with love,
enna
Thank you so much. I feel so grateful to have this hidden knowledge being passed along, I’ll definitely keep you in the loop after I do it. X
Hi Enna thanks for another post that makes me happy I'm not the only one who thinks about this kind of thing. I'm so sorry to hear of these troubles people are going through as we write.
I just had some more general thoughts. It’s helped me a lot to make a distinction between soul and spirit. One reason why westerners don't often do this clearly might be to do with the church officially 'abolishing’ the idea of enspirited humans in the first millennium: http://threeman.org/?p=1092.
As a contrast, in the Aboriginal tradition for example the soul is part of the 'vehicle', which is shed at some point after an incarnation, whereas the spirit is eternal. It also seems to be omniscient and omnipotent in a certain way: In Holographic Kinetics (HK), a healing modality that is rooted in the Australian ‘old ways’, the spirit is the means of making changes for the better for a being, if the spirit is accessed and addressed using the HK methods. A spirit can be communicated with, using such a method, even if it’s of the 'deceased', somatically via the body of a living relative for example. Trauma undergone by an ancestor and expressing itself via the body of a descendant can be fixed as well (as can that undergone in a past life of the person).
This would seem to offer some hope for people enduring the current madness. HK sees this all as a kind of ‘game’, where you’re tricked into participating via agreements of entrapment. This would include taking medications.
The other point would be about experiences with ancestral work, where one can connect with ancestors from pre-colonial or otherwise pristine epochs usually first via the maternal lines and basically enlist them in the healing of the present. I can vouch for this as well. The implication is that the dead are more or less well, often die ‘unwell’ and are not immediately able to integrate with their forebears, and that healing is often required (Enna’s process is a lovely example of this). I’ve no idea how it might fit with souls being ‘zapped’ in the afterlife and forced to reincarnate, maybe we exist in different aspects, undergoing wildly different experiences.
Dear deep diver, thank you for this most welcome contribution.
Yes on the spirit/soul confusion. I've always been puzzled at 'spirituality' being the religious business of 'soul' - which should in that logic be 'souluality', don't you think?
But the bigger problem is that both soul and spirit are largely abstract concepts for people nowadays - I do believe that is by deliberate godtrix design, for after all, more 'primitive' people unpolluted by godtrix had/have an exquisite sense of spirit as experiential reality. Yet, how can modern people make sense of it, and of the distinction that you very rightly point out... In any case one has to experience - not conceptualize - these subtle entities to feel that they are indeed not the same thing. I humbly, as a non-expert, hope to contribute to that experiential aspect, specifically regarding 'spirit', through the non-doing non-practices in my new book.
You make an excellent point about communicating, and helping the healing, of someone on 'this' or 'that' side via a living person acting as proxy. I don't know about HK but the approach is familiar to me in past life regression therapy, I can definitely validate what you describe. Likewise, healing through the ancestral line - in some cases all it takes is to heal at one key generational level and it ripples all the way up.
The last point you mention is the most complex since the zap-recycle operation is clearly not part of the natural order. In soul terms (since it's the soul that records trauma) the soul of someone dying a harsh death is, in a way, 'relieved' to leave the body but does carry the imprint of trauma, which will be reactivated in a future life. So the dead are, to use your terms, both more and less well. For the 'less' aspect, some healing/processing/integration of the blocked energy happens 'out there' at some point after death, but some trace will have to express itself in another life, basically a matter of energy balance. The most interesting aspect however is that we come into a life with only a part of our soul - arguably, we wouldn't be able to 'hold the charge' of the whole soul in the constrained dimensions of physicality, although daily care for our 'spiritual' self increases that holding capacity over time.
This means that the zapping and recycling cannot happen to the whole soul - that's nice and reassuring, isn't it... but also means that even on 'the other side' the 'broken off' part of the soul can't reunite with its greater soul-self as long as the rapid zap-recycle system is in place. Freaky... I don't want to go into speculation about this, for at this point I can only speculate.
However, if those of us who can help with healing our ancestral lines do it (big job - we all represent a large number of such lineages), my sense is that the horrid zap-recycle problem can be helped from 'the other side' by ancestors, in reciprocity (the living help the dead, the dead help the living). Ancestors from a whole-soul remote past... Including, potentially, those who have returned into a body at this specific time in history?
Wow - those are some big big things you have brought into the picture! Thanks again.
Yes! the soul/spirit confusion and abstraction paves the way for materialism, which as we know is a cornerstone for 'god-tricks'.
It seems to be the soul aspect that undergoes fragmentation, and the possibility of re-integration (soul retrieval). There are ways of traumatizing the spirit too, i believe, that have been practised deliberately in the past and there are new ones perhaps more recently invented, but in balance I am certain there are also ways to heal this kind of trauma. [Has anyone come across that recent Thomas Mayer book that deals with the current 'medications' and their spiritual aspect?] I personally find the spirit to be easiest to experience day to day. It seems to be associated with the heart and also with that part of the self that observes everything else going on, as well as joy, creative experiences etc. There are people who seem to be able to communicate directly from that place as well when talking. It is perceivable. If it's also accessible, then we can surely heal all this.
I like your positive outlook in these matters of healing, Bushtaxi!
I am much more tentative than you in respect of the spirit and its possible traumatization. And the distinction of soul and spirit is godtrix-mined territory...
What does seem clear is that 'soul' is individual to each one of us, and has everything to do with what Jung called 'individuation', realized little by little, life after life - or faster in some cases. That aspect of individuation connects with its ability to be traumatized.
'Spirit' is not such a differentiated-individuated subtle entity. It does translate as life-force/chi/prana for us individually, and expresses itself in the physicality of breath (re-spir-ation). But its subtle essence is, arguably and/or experientially, continuous with the greater 'spirit of everything' (as told in the 'Broody Blue' book). In this sense it is a great neutral force, unlike the soul that is more closely associated with our psyche, emotions, and bodily trauma. It is the great 'medium' in which we all bathe, so to speak. The ethers, at a subtler non-dimensional level perhaps?
This would make it amenable to meta-physical distortion and perversion of the 'medium' (Joseph Farrell's term) by 'bad actors' out there, black magicians down here - rather than traumatization. One could imagine that distorted 'lumps' of spirit would be the stuff of egregores (??), the 'healing' of which would be a matter of 'spiritual return to neutrality'.
At our individual level, I agree that spirit is easier to experience than 'soul' because its subtle nature is expressed in us physically, in the breath - and to your point about it being associated with the heart, well, the lungs and the heart are indeed anatomically in close proximity and co-functionality, physically and subtly. If one perceives its action from the physical back into the subtle, then it embraces our whole being, and beyond.
The soul is seemingly less easy to perceive - yet it expresses itself in every moment of our embodied life... so it shouldn't be that hard to 'find'.
Wow, you bring in very big considerations! It would take an experiment of several people operating at the subtle level, with no mind intrusion, to begin to perceive a possible consensus.
But I don't want to go any further on this for now - big risk of confusion, and this thread is mainly about helping souls in distress with available tried and tested tools.
Cheers!